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Sunday, August 3, 2008

Long journey to the middle.

Holy shit.
I have actual blog requests.
I was shocked, son.

If four people came back at me with four requests, I can only imagine the seas of submissions Max Bemis has gotta be swimmin' in as we speak.

But I'm a blogger of my word, and I was really into all the ideas, so I'm gonna try to get to all of them. But for right now, the lucky recipient of the very first personalized Tim Karan Blog©: Cam.

Here's what Cam wanted to know:



...I think what I'm asking for is any and all advice you might give to an aspiring (music) journalist. What was the best advice given to you? Honestly, any tips/inside information would be incredible. Also, I'm wondering how you became so insanely awesome and why it is that every man pales in comparison to your boyish and rugged good-looks.*
(* Line possibly added by me)


So here's the thing.


I'm probably not the best person to give advice on how to make it as a journalist. Mostly cause I'm pretty sure I didn't take any semblance of the route most people take.


I never took a journalism class (outside of one during my freshman year of high school in which I did an in-depth interview with Alexei, the foreign exchange student) and in college, I was a (relatively unsuccessful) film student. Everything I "learned" about writing, I just kinda put together from stuff I read.


When I got out of school, and after about a four-year career at a chain record store, I took a job writing obituaries for my local newspaper. (If it sounds morbid and depressing, you're absolutely right. Let's just say I listened to a lot of Depeche Mode.) But while I was there, I started taking every feature writing assignment that nobody else wanted (from writing about how to grow tomatoes indoors to a hard-hitting preview of the New Kensington Rotary Club's holiday decorations tour). But over time, I built up enough published clips that I was able to turn that into a real reporting job for a free weekly in upstate New York.


But this isn't about me, Cam*.
(*Apparently it is.)


It's true, getting into journalism--especially music journalism--is pretty different from the way it was even five years ago. (Thanks a ton, internet. Although I am quite a big fan of your pornography.)


Blogging (or contributing to wiki-type websites) is definitely a plausible way to get a job online. However, paying online writing jobs make up a pretty small segment of all the stuff on the web. Unless you're crazy committed to writing your own blog (I started something like 23 blogs that have all ended in a muted frenzy of apathy and heartbreak), and are as good as marketing yourself as Perez Hilton, it's rough out there. But I know that our music editor Scott took this path to superstardom (if "superstardom" consists of wearing shorts to work every day once the temperature reaches above 43 degrees.)


To get a job in print journalism, there's pretty much only one way: Get stuff printed. If that sounds like a vicious circle (I can't write until I get a job and I can't get a job until I'm already paid to write), it kinda is. But the thing is, you gotta start at the bottom. Believe me. (See: The paragraph about obituaries.) This is the step that a lot of young writers tend to overlook. You can't go from zero to AFI interviews in 3.4 seconds. Write for free pubs or even submit an editorial to your local paper. The key is that you need to have those printed clips to show to employers. Without them, it's a lot like applying for a job as a shoe designer without any shoes you designed to show . (Sorry for the metaphor. I was just looking at my shoes.)


Don't ever think it's not worth writing for even tiny newspapers. I don't know about other editors, but when I'm looking at hiring a writer, I don't even look at the name of the publication. I just read the writing. If it's good, I don't care if it's from your apartment complex bi-monthly newsletter.


What makes something good? (Aside from cream filling,) That's difficult to say. I usually want a distinct voice--I want to be able to hear the writer when I read. However, don't do what I tend to do--go the Hunter Thompson route and insert yourself into the story. If you're interviewing some local band after a show, nobody cares about how long it took for you to park and what existential crises you went through deciding on what to drink.



The best advice I've ever gotten (when it comes to writing, at least. My uncle once told me never to pee on live animals and I live by that to this day): Just type like you talk. (Or in my case, the way you want to talk.) Don't insert a zillion 50-cent phrases (unless it's "Bottle full of bub.")


(Here's something else, but this might just be me: Don't write concert reviews just for submitting to magazines. If you're getting paid to do it, that's fine. But most magazines and newspapers are geared toward promoting things that are happening in the future. We don't care about the past. If the reader was there, they probably disagree with your interpretation and if they weren't, they're probably pissed they missed it and don't wanna hear about it.)

As for marketing yourself and the changing landscape of music journalism: Well. The thing is, nobody really knows how the music journalism landscape is gonna change. Except maybe Pete Townshend. If I was just starting out right now, I'd probably wanna demonstrate that I know how to appeal to both old school print readers (with printed clips) and ADD-riddled MySpace bulletin readers (with short, concise, entertaining blurby-type stuff). How you do that is really your call .


Anyway.

This has all gone on far too long (I couldn't keep the attention of my production director with a blog half this long, so I fear he's long-since given up on this one). I hope this helped some.


The key: Write. A ton.


If you're good at it and you put it out there, someone will notice.


Just hope that someone is Jason Pettigrew.

That'll be $150, Cam.

Fax my assistant.

17 Comments:

Blogger Cam said...

Wow. I didn't actually think I would get a reply to my comment.

Thank you.

You know, it's a funny thing: my school is filled with supposed journalism experts, but none of them have given me advice as helpful as yours.

Since you replied to my first comment, I guess it can't hurt to ask one last question. Any tips or pointers on freelancing, or did you stay in newspapers before coming to AP?

It doesn't even matter I suppose. Your advice was wonderful, and I'll probably print it out and post it on my wall. No, seriously.

As for that $150...surely my undying gratitude is worth that much?

August 4, 2008 2:25 AM  
Blogger John Committed said...

I actually made it to the end -- but it was mostly because I was fully anticipating that dig you threw in there. And there it was. And I was delighted.

August 4, 2008 9:22 AM  
Blogger Tim Karan said...

Hey Cam (if that is your real name),
Actually, yeah, I've never freelanced for anyone. It was kind of a lucky break (in the long-run) that I got that obituary job, and from there I always stuck to making the most of the job I was in.

But I've seen how the freelancing thing works from the other side now.

Basically, find a publication you're interested in and then do all the research you can to find out what they cover, their tone, their style, etc.

Throw together the clips you have that are applicable and then write a personalized (and brief) cover letter to a specific editor. As soon as you get some interest, you have to take whatever assignment they throw your way (even if it's ridiculous or non-paying). Once you're in their little realm of consciousness (and do a decent job), you should be able to pick up bigger and better things.

I don't know if any of that is what they teach in school, but here's something from the inside: Don't hound the magazine at first. After you send your resume and clips, give it a minute. Maybe wait a week or two, send one e-mail follow-up and then let it go. If other editors are anything like me, being aggressively pursued is more irritating than it is helpful.

The right opportunity will come along and you just kinda have to have faith in that.

Man. For a pessimist I sound pretty fruity.

August 4, 2008 11:15 AM  
OpenID helenaavondale said...

Thanks Cam for asking that question and thanks Tim for answering. I'm studying journalism in college and as a junior, I've been freaking out as to what to do with my life. My professors all have different things to say, but I think your advice sounded more real to me than their lessons.

So thanks again and if Cam doesn't want to pay the $150, I'll chip in a bit.

August 4, 2008 12:25 PM  
Blogger amanda said...

Hello.

Thank you. I mean it, reading advice like this means a lot and is very helpful. All I've wanted to be for the past five years is a music journalist, and I'm only a sophomore in college...sometimes it IS difficult to come to terms with the fact that I need to start at the bottom without shooting straight to the top, as it seems to be easy to skip the middle these days if you've got a good idea and a bit of luck...but life doesn't always work that way. I'm doing everything I can to make it, though, and advice like this is priceless.

So. Thanks! See ya.

August 4, 2008 2:01 PM  
Blogger Cam said...

Hey Aloysius Snuffleupagus (that's definitely not your real name*),

Thanks again for the advice. In all honesty, it's probably more useful to hear from the editors who have to cull through our letters than it is to hear from freelancers (though I certainly wouldn't dismiss any advice they gave me).

I've been in school for magazine writing for two years now, and I've never heard that it's acceptable to send out clips, a resume and a cover letter. All we hear is query letter, query letter, query letter. No clips, no resume, no making contact without a specific story idea. I'm certainly breathing a sigh of relief to hear that everything doesn't have to ride on one letter, one idea.

Shame that stalking is out the window though. I guess I'll have to stick to ego-stroking. Oh, and skill.

Thanks again,

Cam(eron)

PS: Helen, you're not sitting across the room from me, are you? One of the other interns here is named Helen.

*It is, however, the full name of Snuffy from Sesame Street...or so says the Muppet Wiki.

August 4, 2008 2:03 PM  
OpenID Egyptscool said...

I have a question, I guess. I've been wondering about this for a while--
in this day and age, with the internet and the general population of music listeners' attention spans shortening, in your opinion (since you handle listening to new band's music at AP) how does a band become the kind of band that actually sticks? And I mean that in the general sense, because in 50 years I doubt (and hope) that no one will remember the Jonas Brothers. But Coldplay might be a different story.

August 4, 2008 6:26 PM  
OpenID katethegreat235 said...

you don't have an assistant...

August 4, 2008 6:31 PM  
Blogger Jason Pettigrew said...

No, he doesn't. THAT's what makes it funny, joykiller.

August 4, 2008 8:45 PM  
OpenID lafever said...

nice! a blog post full with expert information and all enough filler to take up the remainder...hmmm, filler?

August 5, 2008 1:18 AM  
OpenID ethosdinosaur said...

you should be receiving a ton of clippings from the lima news right about...now.

August 6, 2008 8:32 AM  
Blogger mariaisajedi said...

much like everyone else has said,
mad props are in order for this, tim.
(thats the cool thing about the internet,
i can use terms like mad props and not have all the hardcore gangster kids ask me what the f*** I just said.)
anyways,
this was very helpful, indeed.
thanks.

August 6, 2008 2:35 PM  
Blogger Haley Blum said...

In case you haven't heard yet, this blog was really helpful.

I am yet another aspiring (music) journalist, and I'm just about to head off to my first year of college in a few weeks. It's awesome to already have some knowledge on what types of things I should be doing to be best prepared for hopefully getting a job at a music magazine.

Also, I want to let you, and all of the other bloggin' AP editors, how much I love reading your blogs! They are a life-saver when I'm bored at my minimum-wage summer job. I'm usually so engrossed in reading your entries that I forget to minimize the window when my boss walks by. Whoops!

August 6, 2008 8:17 PM  
Blogger Cam said...

As a lowly student and giant nobody (for now), I probably have little room to offer advice, but what the hell.

If you're going to college as a journalism major, I'd just like to throw a couple of things out there that I wish I'd done differently. I might be wrong, but as graduation approaches, I think I'd feel at least a little better about the whole "real world" thing if I'd paid attention to the following:

1) If you don't do anything else, join your school's newspaper/magazine/whatever, and do it ASAP. I learned more in a week at our paper than I did in a month at school (that's an exaggeration, but it's still a really, really good thing to do).

2) When they say get an internship, do it. Do it twice. Three times even! I didn't listen very well, and as a result, I ended up with one internship under my belt while many of my classmates have two or three.

Also, internships aren't so much about what you do (a lot of boring stuff most of the time) as they are about what you're able to observe and, yes, the people you're able to meet (not those pesky musicians, but the infinitely more talented editors and writers).

3) If it's feasible, get a second major. Journalism is a pretty career-oriented study at a lot of schools. And as much as we'd all like to believe we're the next Hunter S. Thompson, Lester Bangs, Chuck Klosterman or Rob Sheffield, it's kind of unlikely, so having a back-up plan is usually a good idea. If nothing else, it might help you find a job for those times when there's not much to write.
(Technically, I did listen to this piece of advice, but I chose English, which hasn't been particularly helpful. It's just more writing, but in a different style.)

That's it! Ok, there's probably more I could say, but I'll spare you. Those are just the key lessons I'd give my freshman-year self if I could. I wanted to pass them along since this advice post seems to be getting some attention from other aspiring writers.

Oh, and good luck to us. I know we can do it! Rah-Rah! Sis-boom-bah! and all that.

August 6, 2008 9:23 PM  
Blogger Haley Blum said...

Thanks Cam!

Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to joining some type of publication at school, and I definitely hope to secure some good internships during the next four years.

As for the second/different major, that's actually a really good point. For a while, even though I know that I have my heart set on being a journalist, I was actually considering majoring in just communications or English because some people told me that journalism might be too narrow of a major. But then I just said screw it, and I'm going to do it anyway because I just simply love journalism and I can't imagine majoring in anything else. I'd be too jealous of all of the journalism kids! Although, since I technically don't have to declare my major until the end of my sophomore year, who knows what I'll decide to do. I'm considering in minoring in Spanish, English, or some type of business or advertising. I'm just trying to figure out what would best compliment a degree in journalism...

August 7, 2008 11:00 AM  
Blogger Tim Karan said...

Man, you guys are awesome.
I'm glad this little blog got so many people talking.
I almost feel bad I gotta write a new one.

But if you guys have anything else you wanna know, just shoot it over.

In the meantime, I have to get to a few more of those $150 blog requests...

August 7, 2008 4:00 PM  
Blogger Haley Blum said...

Yeah, thanks for responding to all of our comments and writing the blog in the first place!

And just a heads up...I plan on applying for the editorial internship with AP in a few years. Maybe you'll somehow remember my name? (I just figured I'd take this opportunity to start putting myself out there!)

Thanks again for all the advice, Tim!

August 7, 2008 8:58 PM  

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