Converge‘s 2001 album Jane Doe is often mentioned among classic metalcore albums. Got an hour to kill? Watch this in-depth discussion, below, about the making of the album with Converge’s Kurt Ballou and Jane Doe engineer Mathew Ellard.

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The chat was hosted by audio engineer Susan Rogers (Prince) at Berklee College of Music back in December of 2013. More recently, Converge performed Jane Doe in its entirety at the Roadburn Festival and released the set as Jane Live last month.