Against Me!'s Laura Jane Grace guested on the latest episode of Marc Maron's WTF podcast, which follows a recent episode that featured President Barack Obama. During her time on the show, she and Marc dove deep into her transition, family and suicide attempt. While, at times, Marc traverses onto some of his own misconstrued ground, you can tell he’s genuinely trying to better understand Laura’s story.

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All-in-all there is some very worthwhile discussion, and Laura shares a significant amount of her past.

You can listen to the episode in full over at the official WTF website.