Tyler Joseph of Twenty One Pilots recently spoke with AP’s Editor In Chief Jason Pettigrew about how the industry wanted to turn them into something they aren’t

Towards the end of their talk, Joseph dropped some preliminary details on the band’s next album. “I feel a greater sense of freedom and less pressure,” he admitted.

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“I felt a lot more pressure going from Vessel to Blurryface. It didn’t happen the way [industry people] talk about it. There wasn’t a massive single [from Vessel] that projected into the pop charts. What we did was still different from their formula.”

You can read all of what Joseph had to say below:

“Looking forward to the next record, I feel a greater sense of freedom and less pressure. I felt a lot more pressure going from Vessel to Blurryface. It didn’t happen the way [industry people] talk about it. There wasn’t a massive single [from Vessel] that projected into the pop charts. What we did was still different from their formula. Because it got beyond a certain point, I feel so much confidence that I can look at those people and look at myself and say, ‘I know what we’re making is for a group of people out there that want to hear it.’ That’s all the confidence I need.

I’m looking forward to what an even more confident Twenty One Pilots record sounds like. I’m not saying the songs will sound confident, I’m saying the song structures will. Lyrically, the songs will always be the same reason why I started writing them in the first place—to say things that I felt I couldn’t say in a regular context.”

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